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 [³o½g¤å³¹³Ì«á¥Ñyuguo¦b 2009/05/01 08:58pm ²Ä 1 ¦¸½s¿è]
I apologize I can only speak in English here.

I am a foreign student from France and I study in Taichung for 6 month.
I interest me a lot in the Drosera (­T»Iµæ) and I hope I can see some in the wild in Taiwan during my stay.

Last week, I went in ·s¦Ë¥« /  ½¬ªá¦x to see :
Drosera indica (ªø¸­­T»Iµæ), Drosera peltata (­T»Iµæ), Drosera spatulata (¤p¤òÀÖ­a)
Drosera burmanii (ª÷¿ú¯ó)

Unfortunately, I search for 2 hours  in ½¬ªá¦x, but I just find Drosera spatulata (¤p¤òÀÖ­a)
Here are some pictures of my visit.




I want to know if someone went in ·s¦Ë¥« this year, and manage to find Drosera indica (ªø¸­­T»Iµæ) there. If yes, can you give me some advice on where to search, because it is very hard.

On the other hand, I want to know if you can help me and say me where I can find carnivorous plant in the North of Taiwan. Indeed, it is very difficult for me to find information in English on the internet. Do you know some good place in the wild, where it is easy to find Drosera ?
( ½Ð°Ý§A¥i¥H§i¶D§Ú£¸¨Ç¦b¥_¥xÆW³¥¥~¯à§ä¨ì­¹ÂδӪ«ªº¦aÂI¶Ü? )

谢谢§A们
Hugo







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 U can find some wild spatulata at  Yangmingshan National Park ¶§©ú¤s°ê®a¤½¶é in Taipei,but if you haven't a CPer  guide, it's not easy to find,even Drosera near the path.

In North of Taiwan,you can find some Utri.,but also difficult find, if you singly.

GOOD LUCK!!







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 Dear Hugo,

Wellcome to Taiwan!
I'm surprised that you know ½¬ªá¦x and this forum.
It seems that you have examine some data,
and know some Drosera in Taiwan.

Unfortunately, Drosera indica and Drosera burmanni of ½¬ªá¦x are extinct due to the contamination of fertilizer.
The last time I saw them at ½¬ªá¦x was in 1996.
Drosera peltata is also extinct for many years.
It just only be recorded by early research.
All of us in the forum never see Drosera peltata in wild.
It may not exist in Taiwan.

I'm surprised the Drosera spatulata still live at ½¬ªá¦x.
Drosera indica and Drosera burmanni also live in Taiwan,
but they are very rare in wild.
A society has transfer some Drosera indica and Drosera burmanni of ½¬ªá¦x to a new place before they are extinct.
If you want to see these two Drosera, you can contact the society:
http://www.sow.org.tw/

If you want to looking for wild carnivorous plants,
Mountain ¶§©ú is a choice to see Drosera spatulata, which produces pink flower.
Utricularia caerulea can be seen at ½¬ªá¦x, but I do not sure that it is still live there.
Utricularia striatula can be seen at ¯Q¨Ó or some small mountains at ¥x¥_.
Utricularia aurea and Utricularia gibba can be seen in wild at ·s¦Ë or ¥x¥_.

I suggest that if you want to see some wild carnivorous plants,
contact someone who know these plants at certain place can save your time.







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Hello,

Thank you for answering in English !

Searching on the internet for some spot of Drosera, I read a lot of site speaking about Drosera indica in½¬ªá¦xwith photo. It looked like there were some group of people that try to manage the site to conserve some Drosera indica and burmani there. I even saw some pictures of Drosera indica, which were supposed to be taken there in 2004 or 2005.

So bad you say me that they are extinct now!
I just saw a small 1 meter square of Drosera spatulata, with white and pink flower in a side and it is the only place I have seen Drosera in Taiwan. It looked strange and I asked me if the seeds where not put here by someone. (maybe we should remove my post in a few days to hide this informations)

"contact someone who know these plants at certain place can save your time"
It's very difficult for me, as my Chinese is too poor to speak with someone or to search for some contact on the internet. I try to find contact on this forum now, even if I know speaking in public about the place where Drosera live is not that a good idea.

Feel free to contact me in private if you can help me (even if your english is very poor, I can translate Taiwanese Smile )









µoªí¤å³¹®É¶¡2009/05/01 08:29pm¡@IP: ¤w³]©w«O±K[¥»¤å¦@ 1286 ¦ì¤¸²Õ]¡@ 
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 Bonsoir,Hugo
This picture was taken in 2006....in ½¬ªá¦x

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But unfortunately, maybe it was no loger exist now ...

You can find some D. spatulata and some Utricularia in northeast Taiwan, I don't think it's very rare,but as csyin said.... you should conact with someone who exactly knew where they are.....

If possible,you can go to Kinman(ª÷ªù),it's easier to find Drosera in the wild

Maybe this website works:
http://taiwanflora.sinica.edu.tw/en/en_1.htm

Bonne chance







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 Hey yuguo,
I think the details of location should not be open to talking,
If you do not speak Chinese......many parts maybe will very difficult to arrive,because of them did not have common English location names,
and you have a PM.,







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  Have one of you been in Kinman(ª÷ªù) recently and see the Drosera ?
I think I should go there too







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