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-- §@ªÌ¡G felix
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/17 08:20pm

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Zygamann
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/17 08:26pm

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-- §@ªÌ¡G felix
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/17 09:04pm

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Zygamann
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/17 09:19pm

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Chandaiman69
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/18 02:39am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Zygamann
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/18 05:45am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Chandaiman69
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/18 07:26am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Zygamann
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/18 07:41am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Chandaiman69
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/18 08:11am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Zygamann
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/18 08:14am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G felix
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/18 09:19am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Zygamann
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/18 09:25am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G felix
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/18 02:17pm

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Zygamann
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/18 07:40pm

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-- §@ªÌ¡G felix
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/18 09:38pm

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Chandaiman69
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/19 01:21am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Zygamann
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/19 02:08am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Chandaiman69
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/19 04:39am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Zygamann
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/19 05:58am

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-- §@ªÌ¡G Chandaiman69
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2002/06/19 12:11pm

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